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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-19-2002, 09:55 AM |
| Hey guys .. here is the list of uk resellers .. i know .. and ratings .. and abit of info about them .. the rating is based upon the UK standard.
Donhost : Unix / Windows 2000 : 7/10 : Fast , reliable
Virtual ISP : Unix / Windows 2000 : 7/10 : Fast , reliable
Fasthosts : Windows 2000 : 2/10 : Fastish
Vibus.net : windows 2000 : 6/10 : Fast , reliable
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| Posted by mdrussell, 01-19-2002, 10:14 AM |
| You're rating Donhost and Virtual ISP higher than Vibus? Hardly think so, Vibus is easily the best of the hosts you listed there.
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| Posted by 311, 01-19-2002, 10:30 AM |
| you're just rating them on speed, but speed is not everything, most of those hosts have no support at all.
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| Posted by jonny b, 01-19-2002, 10:41 AM |
| Which one?
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| Posted by 311, 01-19-2002, 10:54 AM |
| i bet there isn't one...
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-19-2002, 11:01 AM |
| Yes i have put Donhost and Virtual ISP above Vibus.
But remember .. i was rating them on the speed, service amounts provided and so on ....
Servicewise they are all about the same.
But thats not to say Vibus is not a good host.
Last edited by cdudeuk18; 01-19-2002 at 12:09 PM.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-19-2002, 11:02 AM |
| Fasthosts is the only host out of the 4 which provides virtually no support.
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| Posted by jonny b, 01-19-2002, 11:11 AM |
| cdudeuk18 --> have you had a reseller account with all 4 companies listed?
I know you've used Donhost and FH.....
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| Posted by 311, 01-19-2002, 11:49 AM |
| umm, when I tried Donhost in the past they never answered my e-mails at all...
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-19-2002, 12:06 PM |
| there getting better i hear.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-19-2002, 12:08 PM |
| Why do u ask ??
I have had reseller accounts with :
Donhost
Fasthosts
Answer : YES
Have u had a reseller account with all 4 companies listed :
Answer : No
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| Posted by 311, 01-19-2002, 12:35 PM |
| How the hell would you know? stop making assumptions
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-19-2002, 01:08 PM |
| I am not. You are though....
Your assuming that i have not got an account with them.
I said "I have not had an account with all 4 of the hosts listed".
I - meaning me personally.
But i do/had got access to all 4 hosts via clients / ex-clients.
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| Posted by banihani, 01-19-2002, 01:24 PM |
| Donhost : Unix / Windows 2000 : 4/10 DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT
Virtual ISP : Unix / Windows 2000 : DON'T KNOW?
Fasthosts : Windows 2000 : 7/10 FAST
Vibus.net : windows 2000 : 5/10 SLOW IN THE DAY
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| Posted by jonny b, 01-19-2002, 01:36 PM |
| lol dedicated.....
considering the questions you used to ask us i'd expect a 10/10
On the speed front, all our machines are in our own NOC now so speed isnt an issue....when you had an account, you were on a machine in a shared NOC which didnt have enough bandwidth to support us!
Cheers,
Last edited by jonny b; 01-19-2002 at 01:49 PM.
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| Posted by banihani, 01-19-2002, 02:04 PM |
| The question was not about asking or support it was about speed and having had an account with Vibus, Donhots, Fashosts I can honestly say that FASTHOSTS is the faster.
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| Posted by The Laughing Cow, 01-19-2002, 02:41 PM |
| Fasthosts is by far the most unreliable I have used. I used a fasthosts reseller before getting our own servers.
FH resellers are unlucky because they often can't do anything when thigns go wrong with FH cos FH dont seem to care.
I still have a domain with them (http://whost.co.uk)
I see usually 3/4 emails saying it has been down per day.
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| Posted by TheWhiz, 01-19-2002, 03:01 PM |
| Originally posted by jonny b
Considering your supposed to be a 'service provider' LOL... you can't even get your own site to work - how long has your 'forum' page be off line?
Before you comment about others - I suggest you take a look at your self - 4/10? seems a bit generous to me.
TheWhiz
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-19-2002, 03:51 PM |
| Actually donhost is faster than fasthosts .. and has more bandwidth available ... cos donhost unix reseller .. has servers located in Telehouse ...
Bandwidth to fasthosts according to web site :
30Mbit from BT
30Mbit from Telewest
totaling 60Mbit ( with 155mbit on tap )
OK , this is not true ... they get 8Mbit from BT and 8Mbit from Telewest.
Thats it.
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| Posted by rmartin, 01-19-2002, 05:04 PM |
| UK Standard
If this is based on a UK standard then what does fast and fastish relate to???
This appears to be more biased personal opinion than actual fact seeing as for some of the reseller accounts are being judged on third hand information
This may obviously depend on your location as well
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Ridiculing Jonny at Vibus just because a forum is offline, is no reason to question the ability of the company, Fasthosts seem unable to keep there mail servers running lately and I would say this was far more a serious issue
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Thanks
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-19-2002, 05:07 PM |
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| Posted by rmartin, 01-19-2002, 05:16 PM |
| so what does
fast?
fastish?
actually mean
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I am sure those in N Ireland find that Vibus is much "faster" than others
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Where is this standard located
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Thanks
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-19-2002, 05:23 PM |
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| Posted by rmartin, 01-19-2002, 05:28 PM |
| Fast , slow - how about providing us with a technical answer
My 56 modem is "fast" but technically it is "slow"
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Vibus is based in N Ireland
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"UK Standard" Is it written down somewhere so I can look at it or just something us in the UK should know?
Thanks
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| Posted by TheWhiz, 01-19-2002, 07:24 PM |
| Rubbish! Vibus provide a service - and if they can't get a simple forum to work - what kind of message does that give?
We're not talking rocket science here - after all it's a freebie that most non profit sites are using across the net in droves!
Doesn't instill much confidence in a company does it? I mean what must their customers think who rely on them for technical support LOL.... perhaps jonny b should learn about 'people in glass houses......'
TheWhiz
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| Posted by rmartin, 01-19-2002, 08:15 PM |
| From discussions with Jonny_B, i think he is perfectly aware that his website has particular problems, however just because a forum doesn,t work doesnt mean that his ability to provide a service should be questioned. There are more ways to provide technical support and you do not see any of his customers complaining here
There could be a number of reasons why the board is unavailable, but i assume you have not asked him directly if it bothers you so much
Fasthosts have much more major problems, but they seem to manage signing up new customers
Donhost took their ftp access offline, but i bet they still have people sign up
Thanks
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| Posted by numpty, 01-20-2002, 06:08 AM |
| I asked Vibus why the forum wasn't working some time ago and the answer was "Nobody used it , so we took it down ".
Fair enough , I thought , if it were mine though , I'd take down the link, it doesn't look good.
I'm just about to open a account with them , the questions I had were answered quickly and honestly , so I'm not worried.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 06:31 AM |
| going on what you say .... a bullet goes at 1mph ... do think thats fast ... or is 1000mph fast ???
OK .. fast means it gets from place to place quickly ... slow means it doesn't .... when i load the Vibus.net website .. its not that fast .. but when i load donhost and resellers web sites ... it is ....
Thus how i got to my conclusion.
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| Posted by SuperDon, 01-20-2002, 06:36 AM |
| mmm....oh dear
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| Posted by mdrussell, 01-20-2002, 06:51 AM |
| Surely pinging or tracerouting from various parts of the globe would be a better indication?
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| Posted by acidHL, 01-20-2002, 07:00 AM |
| And different parts the UK even, different connection. It may just be that your ISP has bad peering to whatever network a provider is on.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 07:22 AM |
| i have to internet connection providers ... both have good network connections ... both provide me with Broadband internet access ..... read into that as much as you like ...
But 1 is cable .. 1 is a BT adsl provider.
Now .. i believe Vibus.net is on the NTL backbone .... guess who my cable provider is ... well when i'm not using my BT connection.
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| Posted by rmartin, 01-20-2002, 08:55 AM |
| So from what i gather from this UK standard it is defined as such:
The UK standard is based on how fast or slow cdudeuk18 's 2 broadband connections are!
Thanks for clearing that problem up for me as it gave me a sleepless night
Thanks
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| Posted by jonny b, 01-20-2002, 09:16 AM |
| Dear dear...this has gone a bit mad since it started
I was only kidding with the comment to 'dedicated', i though that was obvious!
The forum link has been down and for good reason.......
If you knew anything about us, you'd realise we participate in multiple open forums......
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| Posted by jonny b, 01-20-2002, 09:18 AM |
| Richard!
Do you now see what Eladesor meant about 'playground'
Cheers,
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| Posted by rmartin, 01-20-2002, 09:41 AM |
| Consider my wrists slapped
I will return to my hideout and hopefully await cdudeuk18 response there
Thanks
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 11:31 AM |
| My broadband connections are extreamly fast thanks ....
And it seems that problem with vibus.net was a temp one ... cos its blazing fast now ...
Sorry Jonny B
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| Posted by HHawk, 01-20-2002, 12:15 PM |
| I haqve been hearing from couple of people where they had their reseller accounts with Donhost, that they are bunch of crooks. They give you this unlimited deal, but its all based on gimmicks.
I would rate them the lowest even if they have fast speed, no one gets the chance to use it!!!
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| Posted by jonny b, 01-20-2002, 12:23 PM |
| Who's throwing stones? Not me anyway....
Why did you feel the need to create a new account just to winge about our defunct forum?
Considering we have a support desk for technical queries i doubt another forum ( on top of our current ones ) is going to make any difference......lol
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| Posted by banihani, 01-20-2002, 12:32 PM |
| A lot of customers would rather send an email rather than read the faq or join the forum.
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| Posted by acidHL, 01-20-2002, 01:04 PM |
| So were basing this on internet connections in the UK from the same geographic location accross two UK backbones... I don't understand how you can call this a standard? Its at most two 2mbit connections (more likely 512k).
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 01:30 PM |
| its abit over standard actually
512kbit cable
1mbit adsl
However the UK standard speed / features / price ... Donhost / Vibus.net / Virtual ISP are best priced ... with fasthosts coming last.
[ add = all going well , i 'll have 2mbit cable and adsl soon ]
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 01:33 PM |
| close thread ... too many off topic posts .. getting nowhere
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| Posted by 311, 01-20-2002, 01:35 PM |
| but you see you're not a moderator! you can't close threads...
(I was just telling you, incase u didn't know that)
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 01:37 PM |
| My post was intended for chicken or any moderator.
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| Posted by 311, 01-20-2002, 02:25 PM |
| yeah, I was pretty sure you knew that...
but I was trying to help
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 02:31 PM |
| thanks
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| Posted by mdrussell, 01-20-2002, 02:57 PM |
| Just a quick question, where are you getting 2Mbit cable from? I know NTL are trialling 1Mbit cable in particular areas, but I haven't seen a cable provider that will give you 2Mbit.
Please PM me if the thread closes...
Matt
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 03:00 PM |
| Telewest ... i'm sure they used to offer 2mbit .. so i'm trying to find out if they still will .... i just abit busy right now will setting up our network ...
ADD >
could u guys help me here
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...&postid=233844
thanks
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| Posted by Eladesor, 01-20-2002, 06:14 PM |
| You started of this thread by:
and in thread - http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...&postid=233844 you state:
Do you own your NOC as the latter thread seems to imply? If so why havent you included yourself in your original post relating to other UK resellers?
Perhaps you dont offer reseller options so why the statement, its hardly informative.
Perhaps youd like to post your NOC and URL details here that we may make a comparison of your services?
Afterall, it only seems fair.......... especially to those you have chose to comment about. If you are unable to post a URL or details about your NOC - then what are you talking about????
Eladesor
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| Posted by banihani, 01-20-2002, 06:29 PM |
| QUOTE]Originally posted by Eladesor
Afterall, it only seems fair.......... especially to those you have chose to comment about. If you are unable to post a URL or details about your NOC - then what are you talking about????
Eladesor
nice one
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 06:35 PM |
| I do not own the noc .. however i work for the person who does.
We will be offering reseller options to clients ... but we currently do not and we are not located within the UK also its not fair to compair a host of our standard to such well standing hosts.
We are yet to be completely formed.
The hosted stated at first are .. and this is about UK resellers .. even though i am based in the UK .. my boss is not .. he is located in Florida .. where the NOC is.
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| Posted by Eladesor, 01-20-2002, 06:56 PM |
| Ah, so actually,
Is a bit of a typo / slip of the tongue as Our should have read My bosss.
Well, as you dont provide any reseller options within the UK,
Ill ask again what are you talking about???? as you appear to have no knowledge, experience or comparable service to base any of the comments that you have made.
Eladesor
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| Posted by Eladesor, 01-20-2002, 07:27 PM |
| Dont worry about answering my previous question, Ive found the answer myself:
I just took a look at your forum
When I tried to access the URL I receive Cant Find Server does that qualify for a -20/10 for web hosting?
I think that the most sensible post that you have made in this thread was
As this URL, which I presume is also you http://www.lameindustries.org/hybrid...tats=cdudeuk18 combined with this thread doesnt seem to be doing your credibility much good.
Eladesor
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 07:33 PM |
| Excuse me ... whats this cybercitys.tv .. i don't own that ...
Last edited by cdudeuk18; 01-20-2002 at 07:40 PM.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 07:36 PM |
| Excuse me ... cybercitys.tv has nothing to do with me .. other than i've been there before ....
that other url well ... how did u find that then ???
As for the typo error ...
let me say something
"my name is blah blah 1 .. i work for blah blah 2"
We offer blah blah
The we meaning blah blah 2
Get it ?>?
The we means myself and the company .. as i also have an input in the services ... even though i'm not a director / president / members of board.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 07:40 PM |
| What does anything you have posted have to do with the topic in hand.
And i'd like to ask why you posted what you did based upon all you have posted are guesses ... and very bad onces at that ...
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| Posted by rmartin, 01-20-2002, 07:44 PM |
| Found at http://cybercitys.proboards.com
Thanks
*** edit , I do agree this has now gone off topic, but i think many questions have been answered..
I will now leave this arena
Thanks
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| Posted by Eladesor, 01-20-2002, 07:46 PM |
| Guesses? are you reading the same thread?
Everything
Well you certainly do own 1 x .tv
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...045#post234045
and how many cdudeuk18s can there be? http://cybercitys.proboards.com/inde...num=1003829633
Please feel free to use my signature, it seems to suit you a little better than me
Your really boring me now, I'm sure that everyone on WHT will decide for themselves.
Eladesor
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 07:47 PM |
| look at my members status ... and now look see how admin is ...
i posted that ages ago .. i was taking the mickey out of his services .. he used to offer
unlimited webspace
un-metered data-transfer
for $9.95 per month .... on a clapt out server in his house ...
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 07:49 PM |
| Yeh i have 1 .tv ...
i also have 1 .uk.co
and there are also 2million + other .tv domains ... and i do not ow n cybercitys ... your boring me ...
check whois ... i live in uk .. any info on that is not me ...
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 07:51 PM |
| oh and guess what ... can't be my boss ..
HE DOESN'T LIVE IN FLORIDA according to whois.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 07:54 PM |
| I'm getting fed up of your comments which have no base what so ever ... i have explain everything.
You must have some kindof vendeta against me and/or you must have some kindof problem unrealated to myself that you feel that you have to victomise myself.
Please just drop the subject you are trying to persue and get back to the revelvent subject which is "uk resellers"
I am not a uk reseller and/or related to one in any way.
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| Posted by jonny b, 01-20-2002, 07:58 PM |
| No offence cdudeuk18, but why even post your list in the first place then?
Thats like me listing the top 5 cds of all time.....IMHO!!
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 08:01 PM |
| Explain plz.
- Additional since i am not a uk reseller .. why is this topic gone into discussion of what domains i own ... what the company i worked for is called ... what this .. whats that ...
- IF you want to discuss this futher simply PM me.
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| Posted by Eladesor, 01-20-2002, 08:03 PM |
| I can assure you that I have not personal vendetta against you nor do I have any problem with you, I asked you a simple question regarding your original post, which you have yet to answer. Having failed to do that I came to my own conclusions.
jonny b: my point exactly, and hence my question.
Eladesor
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 08:04 PM |
| OK remind me of the question.
And i'm sorry that i thought you came over in that way , but thats the attude which game over to me.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 08:06 PM |
| Oh yeh .. i forgot to add the following to the first post
"
Please tell me what you think of the list .. and add some more with ratings.
"
Damn ... i should have put that .. but i forgot ..
Could have saved all this hassle.
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| Posted by The Laughing Cow, 01-20-2002, 08:11 PM |
| this is so OT. it should be closed and left to sink.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-20-2002, 08:12 PM |
| i requested that around 2 pages ago
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| Posted by Karl Austin, 01-21-2002, 09:39 AM |
| Hmmm, I think not, extreamly fast would be the OC3s that our servers are sat on the end of, 512k doesn't qualify as fast, technically 512k doesn't even qualify as boradband, I believe to be rightly called broadband it has to be 768k or 1Mbit (Something around there).
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-21-2002, 10:42 AM |
| Ok ... let me paint you a picture ..
I have an oc-192 .... but the site i'm visiting has an 56k modem.
How fast is my connection ??
My cable connection is 512k
My adsl connection is 1mbit
Simple... my broadband connections are pretty fast ... the adsl is fast cos there arn't many ppl in my area which have it.
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| Posted by SuperDon, 01-21-2002, 02:59 PM |
| still saying mmmmm.....
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| Posted by The Laughing Cow, 01-21-2002, 03:14 PM |
| I was unaware 1mb ADSL was released in the UK yet.
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| Posted by SuperDon, 01-21-2002, 03:18 PM |
| cdudeuk18, i have been reading a number of your posts and am really very interested in which hosting company you are affiliated with?
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| Posted by mdrussell, 01-21-2002, 03:20 PM |
| Yup, you can get upto 2Mb ADSL in the UK - although upstream remains 256k.
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| Posted by jonny b, 01-21-2002, 03:22 PM |
| Quite interesting that BT actually allow you to host a website on their business DSL packages!
" Fixed IP address(es) and NAT - host a site and use real-time applications "
hmmmmm.....as they say
Cheers,
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| Posted by 311, 01-21-2002, 05:00 PM |
| same here...
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-21-2002, 05:18 PM |
| I am not affiliated with any hosting company.
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-21-2002, 05:19 PM |
| Yes .. this is true ..
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-21-2002, 05:21 PM |
| hmm what are you emplying ??
I could host a web site on my adsl .. but that would be very stupid .. as i can get max 256k upstream.
I have a static IP yes , but i'm currently re-building my main pc .. so i'm stuck back on dialup right now .....
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| Posted by Eladesor, 01-21-2002, 05:26 PM |
| Phew this is hard going Then would you advice us who you work for?
Eladesor
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-21-2002, 05:33 PM |
| I have already explained this many a time
I work for a "being setup company" .. meaning the company is still being setup ... which i have nothing to do with...
All i'm doing is adding more features to our own cp ... .. amust other things ..
My Job is : Admin , Programming.
I'm based in the UK so cannot comment on the status of the NOC and when the other staff will be moving into the on-site offices.
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| Posted by jonny b, 01-21-2002, 05:37 PM |
| Now you're getting paranoid!!!
I wasnt implying anything...just passing comment about the business service!!
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| Posted by cdudeuk18, 01-21-2002, 05:40 PM |
| Sorry
I'm just not used to the 101 questions ...
i'm not going to be asked all these questions once we get started up ( thankgod ) .. the other members of staff will be.
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