IntegrityHost.com for sale again on eBay!

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Posted by opus2150, 09-21-2004, 05:53 PM
For the second time in less than two months, integrityhost is up on the auction block. Last time I think it sold for about 65k, now the new owner has a "buy it now" price of 85k. I have a personal account with this company and watched the service level go from great to lousy right after the first sale. The current owner is changing around servers and driving everyone crazy. My account has been on THREE different servers in the last 15 days, no advance notice, just cannot login. When you contact these guys they don't even tell you they are changing servers, just a reply that they are looking into the login problem. What a bunch of liars! Hope a new buyer can restore the *integrity*. FYI: For the auction, see eBay Seller: integrityhost
Posted by NottinghamISP, 09-21-2004, 07:09 PM
Can we see a link to the sale page on ebay ?
Posted by hobzip, 09-21-2004, 07:47 PM
Some one please buy this and restore the integrity to this service. I have had an account since the beginning and it is just awful now. Like opus2150 said we are playing musical servers and trying to keep several hundred clients happy jumping all over the place is a real treat. Someone please step forward. I wish I could afford to take it.
Posted by hobzip, 09-21-2004, 07:49 PM
The link to the sale is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3841354673 I hope it is alright to post this.
Posted by The3bl, 09-21-2004, 10:17 PM
Interesting the seller is integrityhost ( 983 ) So that either means Eric gave the buyer his ebay account which is not legal or he is selling it himself again.
Posted by opus2150, 09-21-2004, 10:47 PM
I believe the username was a part of the original sale and this owner states in the auction that he/she will transfer it too. I really doubt that Eric has any stake left in this company, but maybe he could buy it back for say....50 cents on the dollar :-). I think the current owner is just in over their head.
Posted by Aussie Bob, 09-21-2004, 11:21 PM
Looks like Eric sold his ebay account too, seems that's where all the marketing was done to build the business. So the new owner is just continuing that eBay marketing -
Posted by WHRKit, 09-21-2004, 11:22 PM
If the business is registered you should be able to determine from public records if the ownership changed.
Posted by dturnbull, 09-22-2004, 02:05 AM
if only i had a spare 85k
Posted by **rg**, 09-22-2004, 03:11 AM
Indeed. Very dodgy. From eBay's User Agreement: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...ageName=f:f:US
Posted by joshuayip, 09-22-2004, 03:40 AM
Lets every one chip in 10 bucks and buy it over .... then put in a good server , and we get profit from our investment... do we have 8,500 members here??? If we pull this off, maybe when you login , your first page will be "You have earned XXX dollars from your investment with the WHT community" LOL Joshua
Posted by NottinghamISP, 09-22-2004, 04:39 AM
I am very surprised to see a company earning that much sell up . But thx for showing me the link
Posted by jvmombay, 09-22-2004, 04:46 AM
sure wish I had 85k... yet, i am still surprised how clients still stay with them even after being sold then re-sold again.
Posted by ldcdc, 09-22-2004, 06:47 AM
This integrityhost thing is becoming an odyssey... and the road is paved with itnergity...
Posted by The3bl, 09-22-2004, 09:38 AM
If they calculated the business value using the same fuzzy math as they did selling hosting on Ebay then the new owner may have found out the numbers did not add up. Or then maybe they did and he had servers full of resellers hosting 300 web sites for $19.95 a month. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...PcY_BIN_Stores How much money can you make? Most examples you see on eBay are best-case scenarios (ex. 5-10 sales/day), which in reality rarely happen. Most calculations do not consider the number of customers that quit their service, nor do they take into account marketing expenses such as eBay fees. Of course you are only limited by the amount of time and effort you want to invest in your business. We know of resellers making $15,000 - $20,000 per month and more! Here is a very realistic projection of how you can make $2,000 per month net profit within one year of signing up. SALES PER WEEK: Let's assume six sales per week. Three sales at $10/month. Three sales at $5/month. This is a realistic possibility using sensibly low sales costs, and less than one sale per day. CHURN: We will assume that one of your $10 customers quits each month, and one of your $5 customers quits each month. Again, a realistic number. HOSTING prices: For this example we will use our $19.95/month unlimited reseller account. We will also assume a generous monthly marketing budget of $140.05 to cover advertising, eBay fees, Paypal fees, etc. Based on these numbers, your business would look like this at the end of one year: $10/Month Customers $5/Month Customers Gross Monthly Revenue Hosting Expense Marketing Expense Monthly Net Income $10 x 144 $5.x 144 Gross Monthly Revenue $2,160.00 Hosting Expense $19.95 Marketing Expense $140.05 Monthly Net Income $2000.00
Posted by UnifiedNet, 09-22-2004, 09:59 AM
I would really like to know the new owner saw when he looked under the big red box behind curtain #3.... At least it wasn't a year supply of pickles!
Posted by **rg**, 09-22-2004, 02:20 PM
The original eBay auction ended Aug-12-04: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3831595873 Now check out IntegrityHost's sales since Aug-12-04: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...=integrityhost
Posted by IHSL, 09-22-2004, 02:25 PM
I've seen a few posts saying "if only I had 85k", and "someone rescue this company" etc. My advice: Let it die it's death. It's not worth 85k, infact, I'd struggle to fathom how that company could be worth 5 figures. Business model? we don't need no stinking business model! Simon
Posted by serverunion, 09-22-2004, 03:54 PM
looks like the exact same auction text. interesting...
Posted by ldcdc, 09-22-2004, 07:42 PM
Hmm... I'm with Simon on this one: Let it die its death.
Posted by ztech, 09-22-2004, 09:39 PM
who ever buys it I hope he/she has some integrity not like current owner who is extremely unprofessional, he can not even write a sentence in email without curse words
Posted by jvmombay, 09-22-2004, 09:53 PM
I did say I wish I had 85k and sure, with a little push it "may" have some "integrity" in the end. But I like your advice. essentially if we let it die, it is 1 less competition for everyone.
Posted by IHSL, 09-22-2004, 10:01 PM
I will assume that's a joke. Simon
Posted by jvmombay, 09-22-2004, 10:07 PM
yes it was a joke
Posted by @Matt, 09-22-2004, 10:14 PM
Thats crazy too see your company selling itself on ebay when your currently having service with them.
Posted by Aussie Bob, 09-23-2004, 01:07 AM
They do have a business model - using the world's largest market place (eBay) for customer acquisition purposes for web hosting services. Now here's the thing, what quality of client can you acquire through eBay, for web hosting, and how they treat their hosting plan etc. I see a lot of their ads $49/yr for Unlimited domains etc. Bad pricing, imo, that will lead to server abuse. My assessment is that the quality of the client base would be very poor, given the cheap price of the plans, and the place of client acquisition being eBay. But I could be wrong on thinking that eBay would attract a poorer quality of client. I'm 50/50 on that one, and it's just my opinion. But bringing this back into the value of the business as such, hosting valuations are slipping fast, as each year passes, and the market becomes more and more saturated, and as we head towards hosting (as we know it today) eventually being technoloigically superceeded. These days, 1 times yearly revenues is industry norm, however, also taking into consideration the other ~50 variables that go into this too. However, $85k to buy IntegrityHost from that eBay auction, would be a mistake, and a bad buy, imho.
Posted by IHSL, 09-23-2004, 01:41 AM
He [previous owner] may have started with a business model, I agree there. However, that 'business model' is surely not in effect right now. For sale twice in a fortnight, advertising their own company in the very place they are trying to advertise their company as a stable investment for resellers. I think they nullify each other. Simon
Posted by hunkman, 09-23-2004, 02:40 AM
The new owner will definitely find hard time re-organizing again.
Posted by **rg**, 09-23-2004, 07:27 AM
This page is a joke: http://www.integrityhost.com/resellers.htm But it's a very clever marketing ploy, I'll give them that. There are suckers born every minute on ebay. You sign up a lot of clueless ebay newbies who believe the integrity sales pitch and want to get into the hosting business. After all, integrityhost says it's easy, right? As they point out: 1) You don't need to tell anyone you're an integrityhost reseller (as per integrity's marketing spiel). So when IH jam all of your (ebay) clients onto a server with hundreds of high traffic porno sites, and the servers go down every five minutes, YOU can happily lie to your (silly ebay) clients and tell them whatever stories you care to dream up. They'll NEVER find out! It's foolproof! And best of all, 2) You don't need ANY EXPERIENCE to be a host. Don't worry if your clueless when it comes to technical support for your clients! Hell, just sign up ebayers (if IH can't sucker them in, then you may as well do so on IH's behalf). If your client's ask you too many techie questions that you can't answer, just ignore them and they'll get so frustrated that they'll go find another host eventually (probably another IH reseller on ebay with any luck). And really, there are more suckers out there in ebayland for you to swindle, so don't sweat it. 3) IH won't be here to support you anyway because they're busy selling their business to someone else every few days while the going is still good and no-one has noticed "the clever business ploy".
Posted by BigBison, 09-23-2004, 07:45 AM
This is just me speaking: Why on Earth would anyone who did have $65-85K not do some freaking research and start a real hosting business? Do you think IntegrityHost was started with that kind of capital? You could do more with less. To whomever purchased IntegrityHost, caveat emptor. Did you really expect to just plunk down your money and have a turnkey hosting business, without (apparently) any experience? OR: Is this a case of caveat vendor, i.e. Eric H.? Did the last buyer exercise an escape clause? The only thing with any value may be the TM on the integrity slogan. But then again, you let the reputation go to ****, it won't be worth the paper it's printed on. If it's even registered, I'm really not familiar with the specifics.
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Posted by **rg**, 09-23-2004, 10:06 AM
ztech: The guy you are talking about is from hostintegrity.com and he seems to be completely unrelated to IntegrityHost. IntegrityHost (according to his ebay listing) is: integrityhost.com integrityhost.net integrityhosts.com integrityserver.net integrityservers.net integrityreseller.com integraserver.com integraservers.com integriserver.com integriservers.com serverintegrity.net integritydomains.net
Posted by jailbird2, 09-23-2004, 02:12 PM
What will be will be.... But the current owner is worst nightmare...disaster....
Posted by EthanHost_com, 09-24-2004, 12:00 PM
i agree ...this new guys sucks. i dont know what im going todo. i guess ill start looking for a new resellers account. i have over 60 accounts. but im not ready for a deadacated servers yet. anyone have any sujestions.
Posted by **rg**, 09-24-2004, 12:17 PM
For what it's worth, he seems to have (temporarily?) taken down his ebay auction.
Posted by serverunion, 09-24-2004, 01:17 PM
EthanHost_com - I emailed you, would like to get in contact. admin@serverunion.com
Posted by UnifiedNet, 09-24-2004, 01:56 PM
Defeats the purpose of an open forum no?
Posted by serverunion, 09-24-2004, 02:02 PM
To keep this forum open and unbiased, some conversations need to be taken offline. Consult the WHT rules for more information on this...
Posted by UnifiedNet, 09-24-2004, 02:25 PM
lol Anyway EthanHost_com, Welcome to the boards! You will find plenty of reliable hosts here to help you out! You can also use Host Quote

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